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Message thread at CPP
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*** Green Horse Green Rider ***
Real life horse training discussion group. Mrs. C,
If I started a club for green kids with green horses could you be able to respond to it for tips, how to, and other questions?
I'm green and I have a green horse myself and I'm trying to learn all I can. for her and me! It happens alot, kids study on what type horse to buy then get excited or overwhelmed and don't ask enough questions about the horse and end up getting it. Or they just get it thinking different things but in their own logic. There's several different senarios where that a green, or not ready kid gets a green, or hardly trained horse. for some reason lots of parents think starting at four and up, for looking in ages for horses, is a good age range for a horse search. Four year olds can be trained but are practically just out of foal age, so it can be risky. this has happened to me, but I want to learn as much as I can from my green horse while knowin how to apply safety for us both, and help others that have greenies do the same. She's already helped me in many ways. But her and I are still greenies and We'll learn! But through time We'll need some tips and help. so I'm asking if you'd be a helper to the needy greenies!
GS
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Golden swallow & Bow tie | | 2015-02-16 02:51:29 | | I am riding a 7 year old 16hh Bay mare. she is a homebred and is not very confident in anything but running into showjumps. I'm having some trouble getting her to pick up her legs when she jumps. I klnow it sounds really stupid but she just only picks them up a bit so she always knocks down poles by accident when we jump. We also have a horrible fear of all things pink and orange and i know that because I have fae plowed into may jumps that colour. We have also been having trouble with not glloping around in dressage training!
Any Tips?
TGG | 
TGG & Dekka | | 2011-11-25 17:05:54 | | There are several issues here, I will address them one at a time
1 - pink and orange fear
Start with this. Get pink and orange towels/rags and make a rubdown with them part of your grooming routine. Keep them clean so the color stays bright.
2 - confidence
Is she confident when you are not riding her? That is where you need to work on it. Try ground driving, that removes the risk of her dumping you and allows you to work on getting her to move out without adding the fear of being tossed.
3 - pick up legs when she jumps
This is a common problem. Part of it is she's being asked to do something that it is not clear to her why she has to do it the way you are asking. Have you lunged her over jumps? You may want to do that, starting with small jumps and a clicker that you can click when she does it right (no contact with the jump). Read the clicker club information about how to charge the clicker. Once she understands you want her to jump the obstacle without touching it and she is doing it consistently to get her treat and the click, raise the jump a little and do it again. Repeat until she is doing the jumps consistently without touching them during lunging, then start over with the low jumps riding, with a clicker on your wrist.
Remember the secret to horse training is do it 357 times-- then they get it right away.
Hope this helps,
JC | 
Jane Crandal & JB | | 2011-11-25 17:17:42 | | Yes lunging is a good idea. Oh and make sure if you are rubbing the horse with towels or lunging, to do it on both sides because horses use two sides of their brain and they might be bombproof to it on the left but not on the right.
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MAC1023 & King | | 2011-11-25 22:01:54 | | | I don't agree with that intirely. But I do agree with the par if you are green and you get a green horse that's Dangerous than yes you sadly have to sell it. But if you get a green horse that is calm, doesn't spoke easily, is desensitized, and is friendly, (Only green in trained skills.) then work with it with an adult around. (Never alone for it's dangerous.) Study!! Always be safe. Wear a helmet when ground working and in the saddle. |
Golden swallow & Bow tie | | 2011-11-25 23:10:55 | | | Yay for helmets!!! |
Jane Crandal & JB | | 2011-11-26 01:28:46 | | | Aw Im sorry sunnyhorses. But at least you have a horse..... |
MAC1023 & King | | 2011-11-26 04:36:33 | | | Don't think I can't ride, I've been riding since I was five and I do have lots of experience, but only on ponies. Money doesn't grow on trees so I can't exactly go buy a perfect horse just like that. I know that horse very well, she's just a bit inexperienced that's all. She isn't perfect and I don't need her to be; I mean I'm not exactly doing BS (British Show jumping) with her. |
TGG & Dekka | | 2011-11-26 11:49:03 | | | I'm getting a green horse named Pauli | 
arabluv & teapot | | 2011-11-26 17:15:11 | | the reason you should wear a helmet during ground work is because a horse can do anything in the saddle and anyhing on the ground. Ground work example: horse knocks you to the ground hard by pushing you, may it be by accident or purpose. You had a helmet on and because of that you didn't hit your head really hard against the ground, possibly on a rock or on a fence. Another, (real life happening) a women went into her horses stall. She trusted the horse for she'd had him many years. Something though that day happened and the horse spooked and hit her in the head killing her. She most likely wouldn't have died if she'd been wearing a helmet. A horse is unpredictable! (Real life happening) A british trainer had gotten a six yearold gelidng and had put him in his stall to calm down. After a few days all was well. In the horses stall was a hay feeder high on the wall. Some how the gelding had managed to get it's hind leg stuck in one of the slots! The gelding had injuries to it's leg but with treatment it recovered. Also with green horses you always need to wear helmets for THEY specially are unpredictable. Today my horse Missy kicked me in the side. I wasn't wearing a helmet, (Should have been, And am now going to.) I am glad it was just in my side though and not to my head. She hardly put any effort into her kick. She was trying to tell me I was doing the technique totally wrong, and she did't understand. I was wrong to be doing it and she got it through.
Safety though is key around green (specially) but also trained horses!
Helmet with ground and riding work
Adult around when your in the pen, or some one older than you.
Be aware of how your horse is acting. (Ears, tail, posture and location.)
(real Life happening)
I was siting in Missy's paddock eating an apple. Missy was a little away from me grazing. My lab Belle entered the paddock and I started petting her not paying attention to Missy. Missy came over and Belle walked away some I got up and started to pet Missy and Belle came a little closer to me. Missy then blocked me from Belle and pinned her ears toward Belle. She wouldn't let me near Belle and when I tried she would block me. Belle, being scared wanted to come to me and Missy then started trying to stomp Belle with her front hooves. I ran from the paddock yelling Belle's name. Belle came running out shortly too, dodging Missy's angry strikes. Since then I've always tried to watch where Missy is how she's acting and where my dog is. I've worked with Missy and Belle and now they've become allies. Missy let's her come into the pen and socailize but I still watch them both closely.
Always use safety and don't be dumb.
I've done some stupid things, And have learned and I've tried to improve them and find ways to do things better.
Listen to you elders
Even though they may not be "horsey" people and know the names of "horsey things" or just know nothing at all about horses.,They still know something. And when a horse isacting a certain way and they tell you to do something that is just fine in every way you need to do it!
(Real life happening.)
I was mucking Missy's Paddock and I decided to let her out to free graze on the rest of are front lawn for she had munched her paddock grass down to golf course standards. She had a halter on but not a lead rope. (Which we always put on her a specific way so it wouldn't fall but so we could just grab it.) I thought since all was well all the other times of me being out there and My dad letting her free graze on our lawn I'd let her out but with just a halter. (No adult was out there just dog, horse, and me. No lead rope clipped and horses are unpredictable!)
Later Missy had seen a stripe of a path through the forest we have that lines are property. She went through it and went into my neighbors big open field. My big sister (Not horsey, but older.) told me to take her through the path onto our lawn and put her in her paddock. I took her through the stripe of forest but stopped on our lawn and unclipped the lead rope. (Dumb thing and didn't listen to my " nonhorsey older sister.) Missy then ran in an other part of the forest and then eventually ended up running in my neighbors field, (me pursuit on foot) through our raspberry patch down our paved highway and finally (Thank God, for my horsey neighbor!) To my neighbors horses at the end of town. (She'd jumped my neighbors electric fence to get into the entrance pasture to the other horses! Before that she'd jumped her paddock fence (before it was electric.) (We now know what she likes to do. plus how she runs I know she loves that too!) luckily she always goes to her horse friends Anytime anything happens when she can. So that's two reasons to listen to your elder horsey or not and to think. (With safety in mind!)
Helmet
An older person around
Think
be aware,
And be safe!
GS |
Golden swallow & Bow tie | | 2011-11-26 23:54:25 | |
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